Leaning forward in arguably the hottest seat in management, Kevin Nolan exudes strength with every syllable.
Frank opinions on Sam Allardyce, Leyton Orient, Dimitri Payet, David Sullivan Jnr and Andy Carroll illustrate the forceful personality that new Notts County owner Alan Hardy felt was essential in saving the club from relegation and guiding them on to a constructive future.
There is only one issue that makes Nolan pause as he sits behind his office desk. His voice becomes a little quieter.
The day before he was due to be interviewed by a County panel including Darren Fletcher, the BT Sport and BBC presenter, Nolan received notice that his grandfather Tony had fallen ill unexpectedly and did not have much time left.