How much do you think John Tavares is driven by the fact that he has got those battle scars and he has been in the league nine years but hasn’t had playoff success to this point?
Babcock: I think that’s obviously an important part. It’s an important part for our group just because we have so many kids and they’re fortunate to be on a good team so fast. When you have big in the league for a long time… Patty Marleau is another guy — on a really, really good team for a long time, but you haven’t gotten your name on the Cup, that is because you’ve got to line up the moon and the stars to win the thing.