Carlos Martinez occupies an odd place for me. From my perspective, there are two types of Cardinals fans when it comes to Martinez. There are those who effectively hold the same opinion as Jim Edmonds, that think he just needs to pitch like Woody Williams and all the things that come with that opinion. It’s a little more nuanced than that, but you get the picture. And then there are those who sort of react against that, who are perhaps a little more forgiving of his bad performances than they would be for most pitchers.
I don’t want to say I’m in the middle but I’m neither really.