Graham Arnold could tell over the phone just how much Mark Milligan will be revitalised by his shift to Scotland.
And the new Socceroos coach is optimistic it will breathe new life into his international career, too.
Veteran utility Milligan will finally realise a lifelong dream after signing with Scottish Premiership outfit Hibernian.
The 33-year-old has just about seen and done it all in football but there was one glaring hole on his resume -- a successful stint in Europe with a big club.
Over the years he'd been linked with clubs like Arsenal, Manchester City, FC Metz, FC Porto, Werder Bremen and most recently, Bolton Wanderers.