Leeds United and their striker Patrick Bamford both know a thing or two about being written off.
Bamford was once a teenage wonderkid on the books of Chelsea, but he had not kicked a ball in anger in the Premier League for three years before this season.
Leeds had to endure slightly longer away from the top flight - 16 years in fact - during which they lurched from one crisis and false dawn to the next until Marcelo Bielsa came along and marched them back into the big time.
But the doubters remain. Just this week, former Aston Villa striker Gabriel Agbonlahor described Bielsa's side as a "myth" on Talksport and said teams would "find them out".