When Dean Smith was appointed manager of Norwich eight days after being sacked by Aston Villa last November, Thomas Frank called him up.
'I just asked him, 'What on earth are you doing?',' laughs the Brentford manager. 'I said if I was him I'd have been off travelling the world.'
Smith and Frank are friends and former colleagues. Frank was assistant to Smith at Brentford for two years. On Saturday their teams meet at Carrow Road and Frank knows full well why Smith jumped straight back.
He knows how tight the grip of football management can be.