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Ohio State drops to No. 8 in both polls after loss to Michigan State

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- If Ohio State owns a slight chance to stay in the race for a College Football Playoff berth, where the Buckeyes stand now in the rankings after their first loss of the season matters.

• How Ohio State can still make the playoff

Those College Football Playoff selection committee rankings will be released Tuesday. Meanwhile, we have the two major polls from Sunday, which have no influence on the committee and look like the committee rankings only because poll voters now copy what the committee does a week later.

So what the pollsters think of Ohio State right now is meaningless, because pollsters still have no idea about how to think like a committee member.