Raw and unedited:
Some topics:
* MSU vs Michigan
* Next recruit to drop
* What happened with Danny O'brien
* Ace is making stock picks since he can't lose at gambling
Michigan football rumors: Live chat with Ace Williams 8:45pm ET
Monday October 10, 2011
8:48
Comment From John
Ace I am now rich because of you! Great call on Baylor!
8:48
glad I can help john!
8:48
6-6 perfect this year. I hope some are making $$
8:48
Comment From Eric
You there Ace?
8:48
In da house Eric
8:48
Comment From DisgraceWilliams
Ace, any chance Danny O decommits from TN and joins the good guys?
8:49
Doesnt look like it Disgrace.
8:49
Comment From Dano
Ace why didn't M.Robinson travel with the team Sat - injured ?
8:49
I havent gotten word Dano, people on Twitter said he had a concussion in practice
8:50
I ended up going to a wedding out of town this weekend so was sort of out of the loop on everything
8:50
Comment From Tony
Will Sparty stop Shoelace?I don't think so
8:50
i think our offense will struggle this week big time
8:50
but, i thought that against NW and was WAY wrong
8:50
Comment From DisgraceWilliams
Ace, why didn't Rawls get any carries? Is he pegged to be RS?
8:51
DW - he wont redshirt but he didnt have a good week in practice and is firmly behind shaw.
8:51
he is our #4 RB right now
8:51
Comment From Tony
I see a lot of blitzes sat
8:51
Comment From Tony
Our offense won't be stopped all yr
8:51
I think we all thought the same thing last 2 years tony . . .
8:51
I am very skeptical on this team
8:52
Comment From DisgraceWilliams
How anyone can be behind shaw amazes me.
8:56
Shaw can still be an asset to this team
8:56
Comment From John H
Any sign of Jerald Robinson getting his act together and starting to mature, or, in your opinion, is he a likely transfer B4 next season?
8:56
I dont see Robinson being in the long term plans
8:56
already passed up by Dileo and JJack
8:56
Comment From Tony
Don't be
8:56
Comment From DisgraceWilliams
Why skeptical? Flash backs from previous two years?
8:56
Too many sleepless nights from past 3 years tell me that we go 2-4 down the stretch
8:57
not saying that will happen but it can happen
8:57
or 1-5 (yikes)
8:57
Comment From Jer
Is Chris Bryant redshirting this year?
8:57
any Frosh who havent gotten snaps are RS unless a rash of injuries happens
8:57
Comment From Tony
Who's the next commit boss
8:57
I keep hearing CA WR, but no one will say which one.
8:58
so, I will say one of the Cali WR. Probably Payton
8:58
Comment From Eric
I don't want to bash you too hard Ace but what happened with the Danny O'Brien thing? I read the coaches cooled on him...if so, why would you so strongly feel confident about his committment?
9:00
So, on Obrien:
I have a source who is very close with some 2012 commits and players on team (younger guy() who knows these kids as friends. Same guy who gave me the Kalis/Wilson commits.
He told me 2 different times that Obrien was texting and FB'ing recruits and players saying he was coming to Michigan, even going as far as asking a fellow D-recruit if he wanted to room together next year
9:01
when it came down to telling the coaches a few weeks ago, calls werent immediately returned from U-M staff to Dan's HS coach. When they did speak to his coach, it seems that the message was delivered to him then: We told you to commit over the summer if you wanted to be a part of this class. All filled up bud
9:01
Comment From grrwolve
Hey Ace....any feeling on who's next to commit?
9:01
Comment From J
What happened with you O'Brien prediction?
9:01
Comment From Boner
What happened to O'brien?
9:01
Comment From Tony
U like yuri wright?
9:02
I think Yuri and Dunn will be blue
9:02
i thinkwe take a QB when all is said and done
9:02
in 2012
9:02
Comment From DisgraceWilliams
Denard will struggle with Sparty D but I think someone will take up the slack and I predict you will see Devin in more plays
9:03
i agree disgrace. word i got on my sunday call is that they hope to get Devin 5-7 snaps this week
9:03
even sending 16 out as a WR - -diversion?
9:03
Comment From Acer
Hey Ace, I know O'Brien didn't pan out...does this mean your info on Banner isn't that reliable as well? Think he still comes?
9:04
same source for Banner. I am very confident on that one still though
9:04
this source is 4-5, not bad
9:04
Comment From DisgraceWilliams
Well, MSU will be the ultimate test imho. This team has MOXIE!
9:04
If they win this week, I believe (maybe)
9:04
Comment From Tony
No fuckn way ace
9:04
Comment From John H
Does Miller seem like the real deal at OC, once, of course, he adds 20-25 lbs by next season?
9:04
Comment From DisgraceWilliams
Eric, don't need to bash Ace. I do enough of that already! :P
9:04
Comment From Tony
Ace I will suck u one rainy night if we go 2-6 down the stretch
9:04
whoaaa
9:05
Comment From Acer
Wait, we're recruiting more than one CA WR? I know we're on Payton...who is the other? You know something we don't?
9:06
Darius Powe is an option
9:06
Comment From Tony
I'll even swallow
9:06
Comment From Dano
Will this be our starting D Line next year . big Will,death Roh, ASH wednsday, and back in BLACK ?
9:06
sounds good to me San
9:06
Dan
9:06
Comment From DisgraceWilliams
Ace, what's your stock pick of the day?
9:07
I have been buying Netflix the past week . . . dropped 50%+ from high . . . reactionary drop. not based on real data
9:07
i advise you all buy now
9:07
Comment From Tony
What scare u about sparty?
9:07
Road game scares me. This O has never produced when it counts against Big Ten powers
9:07
Comment From Daniel
Anything new on the Bri'onte Dunn front?
9:08
I think Brionte will wait until Xmas time when school is out then bolt for Michigan
9:08
to avoid backlash
9:08
Comment From Tony
Sounds like sec 6 about rojo
9:08
maybe
9:09
Comment From Eric
but that doesn't mean anything if the coaches decide they are finished with D-Line recruiting
9:09
thats true
9:09
Comment From Acer
How could you pass that off as reliable information then? Kids change their mind all the time. Do you kinda regret putting your name behind info that may have been soft?
9:09
I confirmed with my guy in UM AD who told me Obriens name was still on Big Board, which means a commitment would be accepted
9:10
so, something changed quickly
9:10
Comment From Tony
Badass class
9:10
Comment From Ducky
What QB could we possibly take..? No one's worthy of an offer
9:10
There are 10+ kids they are looking at. Someone who possesses a very strong arm and makes good decisions. A Navarre type sleeper
9:10
Comment From Bubba
Didn't you say Dunn was texting recruits too? Could this be a bad omen like with DOB?
9:11
Dunn hasnt gone as far as saying he was coming to UM. Happy recruits dont text "got room for me" though
9:11
Comment From Tony
Fuck sparty D.Overrated
9:11
Comment From bart
no biggie on ur miss w obrien im sure ur not the only person to get a recruit wrong i believe rivals insiders get them wrong as well
9:11
Comment From Ducky
What QB could we possibly take? No one else is worthy of an offer
9:11
Comment From skeptic
How can we get Dunn, Wright and Banner, 2 WR and still take a QB?
9:12
there is some misinformation on # of recruits. If there is attrition, we can take 6 more kids
9:12
Kid from KY doesnt count to 2012
9:12
Comment From skeptic
@Acer Darius Powe is his name. Why don't you try following recruiting before asking dumb questions
9:13
easyyy skeptic
9:13
Comment From Ducky
How could we take another QB? No one is worthy of an offer, Ace ol' buddy
9:13
they are scared of depth concerns if Shane starts right early and/or Devin doesnt get a RS for 2010
9:13
Comment From Daniel
The other Cali reciever is Darius Powe
9:13
Comment From maizedandconfused
Alright Ace, hows things moving along with Brionte?
9:14
Nothing changed since last week . . . I can only see things getting better for us though. OSU set to be 3-5 in a couple weeks
9:14
Comment From Ducky
Way to not answer my questions, Ace. How could we take another QB? No one's worthy of an offer with the guys still on our board.
9:15
They are looking at every 3* pro-style SR QB in MW right now. Looking at senior film to find a prize
9:16
Comment From MontrealBlue
Ace, have some info regarding a new job opportunity. How can I get in contact with you (real email not your "ace" email)?
9:16
not interested in new job but shoot anything to ace@chatsports.com if you want
9:16
Comment From skeptic
If you are buying netflix b/c you think it is reactionary you are an idiot. There are more than reactionary reasons why the stock dropped.
9:17
please enlighten us
9:17
Comment From Mucktuck5
Are you still thinking we will end the season 9-3?
9:17
I am hoping 9-3. I see L this week, Illinois and Neb.
9:17
maybe, Iowa, maybe OSU
9:17
offense is main concern, not D
9:18
Comment From maizedandconfused
First MSU isnt a B10 power. Second, Denard seemed to settle down. That being the first real hostile environment last ear didny help
9:18
didnt we lose there in 2009?
9:18
MSU is a power in my mind. 3 straight losses. 11-1 reg season last yr
9:18
Comment From DisgraceWilliams
Brionte already saw what happened to Kalis. OSU fans are all Casey Anthoneys
9:18
Comment From DisgraceWilliams
Acer, my hunch is that Brionte will be blue too. His cuz is Blue, Kyle Kalis, good friend of Brionte who was told by Kyle to check out michigan...all adds up that Brionte will eventually see the light...but of course it's not 100%
9:19
sounds about right. and his cousin committed
9:19
Comment From Skeptic
Diggs update... I saw your article predicting what plays michigan would run during the northwestern game. The roundtree stuff was very accurate but I was puzzled by the timestamp. Early Sunday morning (around 3am) it said the article was posted at 11pm (after the game) but now it is showing 7pm (making it seem like you accurately predicted roundtrees performance). What happend?
9:20
Chat Sports has everything time stamped UTC time or some crap. I posted that 2 min before kickoff, (see my twitter) and havent changed since
9:20
Comment From Ducky
You're not gonna name any QB names? So, basically you have no idea
9:20
no i dont want to speculate Ducky so you can come back and say I was wrong when a kid from middle Wisconsin goes to BG instead of us
9:20
Comment From DisgraceWilliams
Bubba, huge difference between Obrien and Brionte
9:21
Comment From Bubba
More importantly, Bri'onte Dunn: Verizon or Sprint? What's your guy in the UM AD say?
9:21
I used Boost Mobile.
9:21
use*
9:21
Comment From Skeptic
Note capital S skeptic is the skeptic from all previous weeks.. someone else is using the name today
9:21
nice.. too many Skepticz
9:21
Comment From Acer
Hey Skeptic my "Darius Powe? LOL" Post wasn't even posted. You sound like a phony.
9:22
Comment From lie ingtwat
hey ace, any news on yuri
9:23
when Yuri visits, he is not a guy who will commit on spot. But I think he will end up blue
9:23
Comment From UM2012
Hey Ace just saw a student reading your live chat in Watson Hall on campus!! You've reached the big time dude! haha
9:23
Nice!
9:23
Comment From Red
Do they like Bellamy?
9:23
Bellamy is not in the long term road map for QB here
9:23
Comment From Eric
Do you have a sense of the level of the intensity that the coaches/players are taking with them this week? In my opinion this game is almost as big as Ohio State because UM needs to regain control of the state...
9:24
One man has made it clear that this is the biggest game of the year (more so than OS even). That man is D.B.
9:24
he basically fired RR for losing this game last year
9:24
that was last straw
9:24
will not accept losing to these guys
9:24
Comment From Dano
The only thing I am worried about from little brother is if they take another cheap shot on one of our guys like last year. The chop block on MM.
9:24
Comment From Daniel
Any 1 on 1 matchups you are looking forward to this weekend against MSU
9:25
Countess will be called on to shadow cunningham
9:25
Comment From John H
What 1 or 2 freshmen, who have yet to see the field, most impress the coaches for upside potential?
9:26
Chris Bryant and Justic Hayes
9:26
Justice*
9:26
Comment From Space Williams
Hey Ace, think there is any possibility we win out and make the NC game?
9:27
I dream of that every night . . . I think there is a 15% chance
9:27
I think Denard wins the Heisman this year though
9:27
and Hoke/Mattison win coach/coordinator of the year
9:27
Comment From Tony
Ace get in the wagon or GTFO
9:27
Tony, i was wayyy too bought in last year to be burned again
9:27
taking one game at a time
9:27
Comment From Joester
How are things going with Andrus Peat? He still considering us?
9:28
Doesnt seem so on Peat
9:28
Comment From jarrod wilson
yo ace williams i just heard bout you and ur website...dunno who told u that i committeed before the press confrence but i find it hard to believe coach powers txted you and told u i committedd...
9:28
Haha.. love these funny impersonations! Never said Powers texted me. Buchtel has 9 coaches
9:28
Comment From Skeptic
Don't have a twitter account and your twitter is private so I can't see the time of the tweet... THat doesn't explain why the article originally said one time and now changes.... whys your twitter private?
9:29
because I am protecting my info. Too many folks using is for the wrong
9:29
Comment From jarrod wilson
u need to think before u make shit up and post it on the internet. honestly its hurtful to me and my family to say shit like dat
9:29
Very amusing.
9:29
Comment From Aaron Warren
Watson Hall????? LOL that doesn't even exist. Nice try UM2012. And nice try Ace for passing it off like the building actually exists. We all know you didn't attend M
9:30
Aaron Warren! You out of jail? Glad to see!
9:30
Comment From Dano
Hey Ace did you read that book three and out ? I have been hearing it makes Michigan look really bad how the RR thing all went down. Brandon was a part of it. Anybody read it yet ?
9:32
Comment From Joester
How are things going with Andrus Peat? He still considering us?
9:32
Comment From Ducky
Why would Countess cover Cunningham? Floyd and Woolfolk (if he plays) would cover him before Countess
9:32
Comment From Space Williams
Ace...is that a wet dream?
9:33
Ducky, no they wouldnt
9:33
Have you watched Michigan football games this season?
9:33
Comment From Ducky
Way to avoid the fact that Watson Hall doesn't exist.. You blew that one, dumbass.
9:34
WTF are you talking about Ducky? You do realize I answer about 1 of 10 questions asked due to volume right. Try and read every word written
9:34
Comment From John H
Know you like our chances VERY well with Banner. With regard to Garrett, what percentage would you estimate represents our chance for his commitment?
9:34
i dont think he will end up Blue but there is a small chance. Coaches would take 7 commits
9:34
at OL
9:35
Comment From Ryan
Any thoughts on Three and Out
9:36
So, i read 3 chapters. Lot of interesting stuff. I believe it will gain a ton of steam and be a national news story sometime this season .. maybe not right away though
9:36
Makes Bill Martin and Lloyd look bad, makes RR look ok, DB looks like the savior
9:37
Comment From bill m
is jordan payton r next commit
9:38
seems to me that is a very strong possibility
9:38
Comment From Jaz
Ace wanted to let you know that you were the topic of convo at our Frat house last week. Controversial but a fan favorite. Keep it up . . gtg watch the Lions!
9:38
Oh geez. Which fraternity?
9:39
i believe its in next couple weeks
9:39
Comment From bill m
whats the date he announces
9:39
Comment From Jaz
Sig Ep
9:40
Got drunk there once back in the day
9:40
Comment From Tony
Nutz on ur face fraternity
9:40
Comment From Dano
Any more news on what the gay acorns will get from the NCAA ?
9:41
No one will know details before an announcement. I am hoping to get word from my OSU guy prior to public knowledge. He broke the story on OSU vacating wins to me.
9:41
the school finds out 2 days before public does
9:41
Comment From bill m
we take 6 more commits correct which six u think we get
9:42
1 OL, 2 WR, 1 RB, 1 QB, 1 DB
9:42
odds are good for: Banner, Payton, Dunn, Wright
9:42
to be 4 of those 6
9:42
Comment From Mucktuck5
In your personal opinion do you think it will be bad news?
9:43
I think it will be seen as a slap on the wrist. I bet 1 yr bowl ban this season, so it wont really hurt them
9:45
I dont see him coming. Coaches havent laser targeted him. Not a priority
9:45
Comment From bill m
r we strong for the overstreet qb/ath kid
9:45
Comment From Andy
Whats your early pick this week for MSU game?
9:45
Early pick is 28-17 MSU
9:45
Comment From Jer
When is the Ncaa going to announce the OSU news?
9:45
no one knows Jer
9:45
Comment From skip
So what happened with Danny O'Brien?
9:45
scroll up Skip, i laid it all out
9:47
ten more minutes or so then I want to head out to watch MNF . . LIONS
9:47
vote Michigan! http://www.chatsports.com/a/Who-is-the-NCAA-surprise-team-of-2011-40-320
9:47
Comment From Gil
Will Cambell get more playing time this Saturday?
9:48
yeah, he graded out very well this past week. Very strong pursue on a QB scramble that won him some points in locker room
9:48
Comment From Dano
Orval Redden Backer is tight with the NCAA guy so I bet the dirty gay acorns don't get shit.
9:48
Comment From Arnold
Ace . . . i have won a ton of cash from your picks last 4 weeks. Great work!
9:49
Just dont come back and crush me when i eventually lose a game
9:50
Comment From Gil
is woolfolk finally healthy? Does Countess finally start?
9:50
I think Countess gets the nod this week . . my opinion.
9:50
not base on inside info
9:50
Comment From sam
do you think Fitz would have played in years past?
9:50
Comment From sam
who on this team would have started in 2003 or 2006?
9:52
Depends on coach, but Denard might have started both years (ahead of Sr Navarre and Jr Henne) . . . No WR or RB start in either year. Taylor Lewan and Kovacs for sure . . .
9:52
so, overall, low on talent vs teams in years past. But, no egos, best coaching we have had in 20 yrs and a mission
9:52
intangibles on this team are what will make or break it
9:52
Comment From John H
Is Moore likely to be back as 5th yr senior next year?
9:53
i could see them going either way with Moore . . .
9:53
Comment From bill m
hes already better then wolfork countess is tuff and is are best cover guy wolfork cant cover or tackle with all his damm injuries
9:53
Troy is not a guy who would start in vintage michigan years
9:53
Comment From Dano
Did C.Gordon RS yet. If not will he this year. Has not played this year yet.
9:54
pretty sure he RS in 2009
9:54
Comment From bill m
is fitz hurt
9:54
no
9:54
Comment From Mucktuck5
are we still in it for ron thompson?
9:55
Michigan is not pursuing Thompson
9:55
Comment From skip
what is your prediction for Saturday?
9:55
Prediction? PAIN
9:55
for us
9:56
28-17, 24-13 something like that
9:56
Comment From bill m
we dont thompson
9:56
FYI, I love Niki Noto
9:56
gal from ESPNU Ann Arbor roadtrip
9:56
wife material
9:57
Comment From Skeptic
It seems to me that campbell and martin never seem to be in the game at the same time (i could be wrong about this). If I am right is their a logical reason for this other than keeping the line strong throughout the game?
9:57
skeptic, you are spot on. Looks like they want to keep those big boys fresh and have been happy with play of RVB in middle
9:57
Comment From bill m
norte dame crused msu i think we have a shot no turnovers we win
9:57
Comment From Dano
38-17 down goes Little Bro . book it .
9:58
I love the optimism guys! I hope I am WAY wrong. I will go into a shell if we lose to MSU 4 years in a row
9:58
A shell.
9:58
If we lose to MSU, I am retiring from writing/chats and will never be heard from again
10:00
Comment From stacy
No way Ace! I call BS on that
10:00
Comment From T_Mo
They have a very spotty O-line. The huge problem is it being in EL but they really got man handled by ND
10:00
Comment From bill m
noooooooooooooooooo ace lol dont do it
10:00
Comment From Skeptic
Do you know of anything Hoke is doing to mentally prepare the team for msu?
10:03
i heard some of the context of post game speech after NW. It was pretty emotional that "nothing else matters, nothing about this season means anything other than this game. We want to own this state, this league, this sport? It starts the second you leave this locker room. Every minute of the day I want you thinking about State. Think how you can make 1 play, one read, one catch, one tackle to beat them. For you seniors, for all the scrutiny, you can redeem yourselves next weekend"
10:03
Comment From Dano
Cousins is one of the most overrated rags I have seen in awhile. You would think he played for the gay acorns he is over hyped so fucking much. A little pressure and he folds like a tent.
10:03
well, that may be true but he sure made Jonas Mouton look like a chump a few years back
10:04
k guys headed out. Any last questions?
10:04
Comment From Skeptic
Given his new contract do you think Dantonio would take the osu job if offered? Is he a candidate (assuming meyer says no)
10:04
Hell yes he would
10:04
kind of like Hoke "would crawl to Columbus"
10:04
Comment From T_Mo
No. he mad Greg Robinson look like a chump
10:05
that is true too!
10:05
gtg guys! later
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