Ace Williams chat from tonight, raw and unedited.
Live Michigan football insider chat with Ace Williams
Tuesday October 18, 2011
8:32
Comment From ryan
dude . . georgia tech? u r killlllling me
8:32
sorry ryan . . . i hope you also bet my 6 straight weeks of wins?
8:33
Comment From ryan
just last week . . . so i am 1-1 with you
8:33
hey, i promise to win for you if you stick with me!
8:36
Comment From Duckz
So you still confident on Banner? Even though the source was maybe a little wrong with the O'Brien prediction..?
8:36
very confident on him
8:36
like i have said before . . . if brady hoke wrote a michigan inside article, he would be wron gon15% of things.
8:36
life happens
8:36
Comment From Dano
Why would Hoke shake hands with that piece of shit after the game. Hoke needs to get his head out of my ass.
8:37
yeah, i kind of liked me some harbaugh on Sunday
8:37
no way in hell we run play action on 4th and inches with jim
8:37
watch stanford . . even in his 1st season they were badasses
8:37
Comment From Dano
I told you i was worried about the cheap shots. Dirty little gay brother. is MSU.
8:38
Comment From allen
why are you so down on the team ace
8:38
well, pretty simple. . . i have been waiting for this game as a "become men" game for this entire program . . . we are still boys
8:39
Comment From todd
what have you found out from your sunday calls?
8:39
a lot todd
8:39
so.... on recruiting. Dunn, Payton and banner are seen in the coaches eyes as the three high ceiling guys most likely to come to Michigan
8:40
Yuri right in #4 on that list . . . coaches think we can get him but less confident than the other three
8:41
Comment From FeelingBlue
So Payton is announcing next Tuesday..what is the chance we get him? I'm going with 75%
8:41
i think thats about right.
8:41
he has given vibes to folks at 3 diff recruiting networks that he will end up at Michigan
8:41
Comment From Mace Williams
whats the story of gholston being called Tom?
8:41
no clue, sounds BS.
8:41
RR was so unorganized recruiting it doesnt surprise me though
8:42
Richs name is being mentioned by some media folks for Tulane job . . .
8:42
Comment From Dano
Why can't the coaches figure it out that Molk times the snap. Just watch him, I can tell when he is going to snap the ball so I'm sure other coaches can see it too.
8:42
i think the offensive staff was lost in 2nd half
8:42
they were trying to out athlete MSU by send WR out in 1 on 1 coverage
8:43
not our game, yet
8:43
dumb moves
8:43
Comment From Jeremy
Is Armstead coming to AA?
8:43
doubt it, i am guessing Bama or ND
8:44
Comment From FeelingBlue
That story came from a MSU site
8:44
Comment From FeelingBlue
just the 2nd?
8:44
well, we scored in 1st half on a nice drive
8:44
td in 2nd half was luck
8:44
i have never seen a team EVER that punted so many times past the 50
8:44
Comment From Jeremy
Anywhere but ND.
8:45
lets hope. their D line is sick enough
8:45
STACKED for next 3-4 years
8:45
i cannot understand why the staff went away from the gameplan: UConn 2010
8:45
you saw it right out of the gate and they never went back to it!
8:46
Comment From Dano
I still say as long as Kovacs is starting in secondary our defense will not be top notch. We need speed back there. I said it you heard it.
8:46
we need to upgrade EVERYWHERE else then Dano. Kovacs is the best we got right now on D
8:46
its amazing to see
8:47
Comment From Jeremy
ND has put together a very nice class. And is doing it quitly
8:47
What would everyone think about a Maize Legacy jersey vs OSU?
8:47
Comment From Bart
i heard u have no insight and just guess and call it "inside information" is that true?
8:47
no one could guess and be as spot on as i am bart, but thanks
8:48
hell, read my article from Friday if you think I am guessing!
8:48
Comment From Dano
I would like it.
8:48
Comment From Jeremy
Lets stick to the Blue jerseys
8:49
Comment From Bart
could i please have a link to your article?
8:49
go to my writers page bud. not too tough to read every article I have ever written. Click "Ace Williams' on this page
8:49
#internetfordummies
8:49
Comment From Lace Williams
IO think Maize jerseys would be slick. Old foggies at Michigan would have a stroke
8:49
yeah i am all for it
8:50
to hell with the traditionalists .. . they have been proven wrong enough
8:50
Comment From Dano
Hey Bart go fuck yourself I'm not really in the mood tonight you fucking dog dick.
8:50
I wont let trolls overtake this chat Dano!
8:50
Comment From maizedandconfused
maize jerseys would literally be the biggest eye sore this side of marylands 2 sided jerseys
8:50
people said same thing about legacy jerseys . . those looks awesome vs ND
8:50
AWESOME
8:51
and, recruits and 12-25 year olds think Michigan is 'cool' again
8:51
trust me
8:51
Maize Bball jerseys are our best sellers
8:51
Comment From FeelingBlue
The home unis yes.
8:52
Comment From maizedandconfused
yeah except that maiaze is a very different color than navy blue with some maize stripes
8:52
Comment From Jeremy
I don't think UM needs to turn into the ducks.
8:52
Comment From Dano
Do you think that dirty little brother #2 will be suspended any games for the cheap shots.
8:52
ace williams: i think gholston will get 1 game
8:53
ace williams: finally figured out how to respond with my name showing!
8:53
Comment From Drew
Sorry if already asked recently - does UM have a legit shot at Dunn? Any insight?
8:53
ace williams: Drew . . i put likelihood at 60%
8:53
ace williams: was 40% over summer, 50/50 at beginning of season
8:53
Comment From FeelingBlue
Should be 2
8:54
ace williams: yeah, should be 2-3
8:54
ace williams: have you all seen this video? http://www.chatsports.com/michigan-wolverines/a/Suspend-him-MSUs-Gholston-deserves-to-sit-out-2011-10002-4955
8:54
Comment From maizedandconfused
which was a dirtier hit.. Gholston or Rush (who actually injured Denard and KNEW it was late)
8:55
ace williams: i think they are both awful
8:55
ace williams: but Gholston was a 'non football act' so dirtier to me
8:55
Comment From Drew
PSU still a big threat with Dunn?
8:55
ace williams: i dont see him giving PSU too much thought
8:56
Comment From Montel
who are our top 5 players of 2011 in order?
8:57
ace williams: 1. Denard
2. Kovacs
3. Martin
4. Jake Ryan
5. JR Hemmingway
8:59
ace williams: 1. Roundtree
2. Entire O Line
3. Fitz Toussaint
4. Van Bergen
5. Troy Woolfolk
8:59
Comment From MSUcansuckmyhairyballs
Do you thInk the loss Saturday will have a negative impact on current recruits?
8:59
ace williams: no, as long as we win 3 of final 5, we will be all good
8:59
ace williams: 9-3 is a good year
8:59
ace williams: 8-4 is seen as a bust to recruits
8:59
Comment From Montel
what about bottom 5, starters only?
9:00
ace williams: sorry answered this questions before publishing: worst 5 starters
1. Roundtree
2. Entire O Line
3. Fitz Toussaint
4. Van Bergen
5. Troy Woolfolk
9:00
Comment From cali
So if we tie the game up on against little brother with 4 minutes left. Do you think we win and would you consider them "men" even with how bad we played?
9:00
ace williams: i think it was less than 50% likelihood we score there even if we get 1st down
9:00
ace williams: on a sneak
9:00
Comment From Dano
Any more news on the gay acorns penalty from NCAA.
9:00
ace williams: nothing
9:01
Comment From Dano
Denard,Mattison,Martin,Hemmingway,Smith.
9:01
ace williams: on 2nd thought, I would add smith to list of top 5 players and remove JR
9:02
ace williams: anyone want to blog about Michigan football? They are considering bringing on more writers to the 6 on staff now .. email blogger@chatsports.com if interested!
9:02
Comment From Duckz
How can you say Lewan is one of our worst starters? And Molk? And RVB?
9:02
ace williams: entire O Line has been bad, entire year
9:02
ace williams: not much to add to that
9:03
ace williams: Van Bergen hasnt made many plays . . . who would you replace him with
9:03
Comment From Guest
Hard for any of the WR's to be on the top 5 list with the QB play
9:03
ace williams: Roundtree has been awful this year
9:03
ace williams: he is the next Tay Odoms . . . i bet he barely plays next year
9:04
Comment From Dano
RVB is a weak link.
9:04
ace williams: True Dano
9:04
ace williams: he needs to move back outside, maybe WC gets a start soon
9:04
Comment From Azfootballfan
Payton a lock in his announcement next week?
9:04
ace williams: i would bet $$ he goes BLUE
9:04
ace williams: Who is going to Purdue game?
9:04
ace williams: I am headed up with my dad and sisters
9:05
ace williams: should be a great homecoming !
9:05
Comment From Duckz
RVB is playing out of position and still making plays. He's doing everything asked for. And Lewan is holding up the left side. The OL hasn't been good, but people haven't been getting past Lewan. And he hasn't picked up a penalty
9:05
ace williams: including a blowout win ;)
9:06
ace williams: from 1969-2007 Lewan would have started maybe 3 years
9:06
Comment From Guest
I will be at the Purdue game. Where do you live Ace?
9:06
ace williams: flying in Friday night from laguardia
9:06
Comment From azblue
dano sucks aces dick jesus christ its funny to watch him just agree and support ace hahahahah!
9:06
ace williams: haha
9:07
Comment From Guest
AZfootballfan is a Sparty from the mlive.com forum - you don't want to know him
9:07
Comment From grrwolve
Hey Ace...I have to hand it to you...you took a realistic look at the talent level of the team against the Spartoons. I think mos t of us forgot Hoke & Co. are on their 1st year...it 'll take a coupole of recruiting classes to get there......
9:07
ace williams: i got so much hate mail, tweets etc for my friday article. i swear some people are blind
9:08
ace williams: this team has MAYBE 2 guys who start in the 90s for Michigan
9:08
Comment From schaarky
I'd say denard is in the bottom 5. Just because he's playing out of position.
9:08
Comment From Azfootballfan
I make 200,000 a year and also have stock options for my company
9:08
ace williams: good to know AZ, congrats
9:08
Comment From Dano
It got you crying you fucking queer.
9:08
Comment From Drew
I think next year will be tough with the schedule. I don't see it getting better in '12
9:09
ace williams: it wont . . . next year is 7-5/8-4
9:09
ace williams: 2014 will be a year we can make a run . . if DG gets redshirt
9:09
ace williams: which i dont believe he will
9:09
ace williams: so a sophomore Morris will be called on to run a stacked young team
9:09
Comment From Drew
I am make 201,000 a year and have stock options and we have onsite daycare
9:10
ace williams: i make 202k/yr, have stock, 401k and a work pager, what!
9:10
Comment From grrwolve
I see Azzwipe has found this blog....coming to be yourselff again you POS!!
9:10
ace williams: someone tell me about the AZ guy?
9:10
ace williams: seems to be getting a lot of comments
9:10
Comment From jack
Ace, I wouldn't worry so much about this receruiting class falling apart if we finish 7-5/8-4. Most of our recruits know that Hoke doesn't have much to work with. They also know that they'll have a shot at playing time early on in their careers at UM.
9:11
ace williams: we wont lose too many . . . maybe 2-3 if things unravel
9:11
ace williams: but, we might lose the big fish sitting out there . .
9:11
Comment From Drew
He spends ALL DAY, EVERY DAY on the mlive.com/forums/umfb
9:11
ace williams: that place reminds me of AOL in 1996
9:12
ace williams: worst internet forum EVERRRRR
9:12
ace williams: it literally is a 1996 website
9:12
Comment From grrwolve
he is a major troll in the UoM MLive forum...he is a tool
9:12
Comment From Booga
8-4 wouldnt hurt recruiting
9:12
Comment From Drew
He is ridiculous. Talks about being an insider and all his links to MSU. I told him that I am good friends with Todd Krumm and John Miller (former MSU players) and he couldn't remember who they were
9:12
Comment From Drew
AOL... lol...
9:12
Comment From Jeremy
Who the big fish?
9:13
ace williams: Yuri, Dunn, Banner . . .
9:13
ace williams: Dunn will not come here if we lose more than 2 games. if we lose to OSU its dunn for DUnn
9:13
Comment From Booga
But mlive has WolverDog guarding it from the trolls and protecting it
9:13
Comment From jack
That's true. I think we're more likely to fall out of the Banner & Dunn sweepstakes if we stumble down the stretch than we are to see current commits decommit.
9:13
Comment From Drew
Is Diamond out of the picture now?
9:14
ace williams: he is a last minute guy .. i have held firm for months, Diamond is not a Michigan talent
9:14
Comment From schaarky
I hear some talk about Blake Bars possibly looking elsewhere. Any truth to that?
9:14
ace williams: Havent heard that . . . that might help us. would allow us to go full court on garnett
9:14
ace williams: Who here thinks Devin should start at QB?
9:16
Comment From schaarky
I do
9:16
Comment From Drew
Ace - what makes you think DG won't get his redshirt?
9:16
ace williams: the school would have to lie and they wont.
9:16
ace williams: he wasnt injured
9:16
Comment From Drew
I would like DG as the starter and use Denard as a Percy Harvin type
9:16
Comment From schaarky
denard in the slot
9:16
Comment From grrwolve
we need Banner, Garnett, and how about Armstead...???
9:16
ace williams: dont see Amrstead here
9:16
Comment From AZFoosball
yo ace you ever tap that brenna chick that started working with you and disappeared?
9:16
ace williams: haha, no never met her
9:16
ace williams: she sent me topless pics though
9:16
ace williams: JK!
9:16
Comment From jack
Ace, what do you see Borges doing with this offense from here on out? Did he learn his lesson that trying to force Denard and the offense to run pro style won't work? We need to use this week to install more spread elements from last year.
9:17
ace williams: it seems like we made strides in MInn and NW games only to regress . . he better go back to short passes, 20 denard rushes, read option and screens
9:19
Comment From Dano
Denard is the QB . Devin can wait for his turn after next year.
9:19
Comment From Booga
So you basically think its a 65% chance that UM beats O$U?
9:20
ace williams: not so fast on the math . . . take into consideration if we win, its 99% we get him. .. f we lose its still 30% due to possible OSU sanctions
9:20
Comment From Jeremy
He should get alot more playing time for sure.
9:20
Comment From Booga
I mean 60%
9:20
Comment From FingerBanger
Ace,Is your sisters hot?If so could I hook up with them?
9:20
ace williams: with a name like that, u got it. meet them at the port-a-potty for a quickie
9:20
Comment From Duckz
Did you really say Diamond is not Michigan talent? You realize he's a 5*, with offers from pretty much every school in the Big Ten and SEC?
9:20
ace williams: Jordan Diamond is a 5star? At what sport?
9:21
Comment From jack
Agree. And stop with trying to get Denard to audible at the line of scrimmage. Kid doesn't know how to read a defense yet. Borges should know better
9:21
Comment From AZFootballFan
Denard couldn't be the QB where I went to school - Kalamazoo College
9:21
Comment From schaarky
wouldn't it benefit denard to make the switch to slot, seeing that's the only position he'll be drafted for?
9:21
ace williams: MIGHT SIGNAL THAT DEVIN cant make the throws
9:21
Comment From jack
Once Barnum is healthy we need to move Schofield to RT, Huyge to RG, and OMamaeh to the freaking bench.
9:21
ace williams: Omameh is struggling for sure
9:21
ace williams: thats what you get with a 2star
9:22
ace williams: HA, thats funny . . Jordan Diamond a 5star
9:22
ace williams: if he was a 5star he would be a wolverine by now... they are not recruiting him much
9:22
ace williams: back up plan
9:22
Comment From Duckz
Diamond is a 5* on Scout, you quack
9:22
ace williams: provide a link
9:22
ace williams: i lost all respect for Scout if so
9:23
Comment From schaarky
I thought dg might not be looking good in practice since we hardly see him on the field.
9:24
Comment From Guest
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=4822082
9:24
ace williams: wow scout has about 60 5 stars
9:24
ace williams: they are smoking CRACK
9:25
ace williams: guy will never start for a 9win team in college
9:25
ace williams: not a MIchigan talent
9:25
Comment From Guest
i sent the link
9:25
Comment From schaarky
Michigan is rank #1 on scout.
9:25
Comment From I Am Cool
Anyone watching this michigan soccer game, were tied with akron!
9:25
ace williams: #10 OT is a 5star?
9:26
ace williams: 5starts are 1st round potential guys
9:26
ace williams: what a crock of shit
9:26
Comment From FingerBanger
Ace,Will u meet me by a port a potty?
9:26
Comment From Duckz
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=4822082
9:26
Comment From schaarky
http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=9&c=4&yr=2012
9:27
ace williams: oh wait, do they have him as #10 PLAYER overall??
9:27
Comment From Duckz
Do you have any analytical evaluation that can back up what you dislike about Diamond? Every site has him as a high 4* and Scout gave him the 5th star. What makes you see him differently?
9:28
ace williams: yeah, my best friend and I went to see his game last year. bets friend works for a little company in Connecticut that has 4 letters. He got dominated by a 5-10 190lb DE
9:28
Comment From Guest
With A Washington being at the UM/MSU game and then making an announcement that he will be deciding on the 25th? I think. does thst mean he will not be Blue?
9:28
ace williams: no chance
9:28
Comment From Guest
We don't need anymore soft OL
9:28
Comment From I Am Cool
is kalis worthy of a 5 star?
9:28
ace williams: Kalis will start next year
9:28
Comment From Bdub
of course he doesn't
9:28
Comment From Guest
#10 OT - that is his position rank - Diamond
9:28
ace williams: absurd
9:29
ace williams: guy is a bust. trust me.
9:29
ace williams: product oif big kid at big name school
9:29
Comment From Duckz
Ah, so he had a bad game, you're right, that totally means he's not Michigan quality
9:29
ace williams: i have watched all his film, i suggest you do so too
9:29
ace williams: and oh yeah ., . . i forgot the main reason: The MICHIGAN coaches dont want him
9:30
ace williams: he is the ultimate backup plan
9:30
ace williams: he is the girl you text a 4am to come over if desperate after striking out at every bar in town
9:30
Comment From Bdub
cause you watched him in one game?
9:30
Comment From I Am Cool
ace, what do you expect from our basketball team this year?
9:30
ace williams: a season similar to last yr
9:31
ace williams: struggle early in Big Ten, come on with a big finish and get a 6 seed. top 25 team
9:31
Comment From schaarky
diamond (14) ranked much higher than malls (20) and Magnusson (32) on ESPN
9:31
Comment From Guest
Tom Beaver disagrees with you Ace
9:31
ace williams: wait, I am Tom Beaver, remember
9:31
Comment From Duckz
I have. And I like his film. He's been hurt for the past year, in case you didn't know that
9:32
ace williams: DEAD wrong bud
9:33
ace williams: gotta pee. brb 5 min. too many beers
9:55
Comment From MSUcansuckmyhairyballs
I'd prefer Banner
9:55
Comment From Guest
Tom Beaver is god. He makes me bi-curious. He's a handsome man.
9:55
Comment From Duckz
The coaches don't want him?! Seriously? Is that why Funk is at his school this week? And why the coaches told him if he wants to come they'll take him?
9:55
Comment From Booga
sweet 16
9:55
Comment From Mick
Hey Ace, I just joined in, what happened with the live thread for the game on saturday?
9:55
Comment From Bdub
is there anyone/anything you aren't an "expert" on?
9:55
Comment From Duckz
Dead wrong that he's been hurt? Are you serious? He had a back injury all of last year and during the workouts this summer
9:55
Comment From I Am Cool
are we still mcgary's favorite?
9:55
Comment From schaarky
kalis (20)
9:56
Comment From Guest
If you are Tom Beaver, I would like to invite you to sit with me at each game the rest of the season. My season tickets are in section 315. We can take the elevator up - alone.
9:56
Comment From Guest
This guy Ace doesn't know much and he is drinking while on the job to boot
9:56
Comment From Mike
Here I am again... just wanted to say thank you for proving you have no credibility by being completely wrong on the Danny O'Brien announcement.
9:56
Comment From maizedandconfused
Well if hes been hurt for an entire year I dont want ot waste a scholarship.. we have enough medical hardship guys already (Pace talbott etc)
9:56
ace williams: sorry back
9:57
ace williams: Let me make it clear: Diamond is the backup, backup, backup plan at OL right now
9:57
ace williams: and Mike, what have you been right on?
9:57
ace williams: 1 wrong call out of MANY, way to call me out!
9:58
ace williams: This isnt my job, i will drink all day and night while chatting for free with folks. whatcha make of that!
9:58
ace williams: HAHA
9:58
ace williams: phone rang after bathroom break and had to take a quick call
9:58
ace williams: many apologies for those that have stuck around
9:59
Comment From Guest
Why did it take so long to Pee ace? Were you peeling one off thinking of Tom Beaver?
9:59
ace williams: haha got a call from a pal and picked up while in bathroom .... didnt want to cut him off.
9:59
Comment From Duckz
How is Diamond a backup, backup, backup plan? Funk is visiting him this weekend and they told him that they still want him if he wants to commit
10:00
ace williams: Coaches visit tons of prospects . . . might want to see if he has improved at all
10:00
Comment From Booga
wILL Michigan after class of 2014 WR recruit, Drake Harris?
10:00
ace williams: holy hell... i have no idea. 2014?
10:01
ace williams: wayyyyy to far out of my realm bud
10:01
Comment From Guest
Late in the recruiting game to take visits to see a player you don't want or if you do, as a back up to the back up plan. Makes no sense to me.
10:01
ace williams: If MIchigan coaches wanted Diamond, he would have committed.
10:01
Comment From grrwolve
Ace....what is your take on how we'll do against Purdue? Do we roll?
10:02
ace williams: i think we roll GRR. i watched some of them the last few weeks. we should hold them to under 21 pts. thats enough to win
10:03
ace williams: RichRod only Michigan coach EVER to lose to MSU and OSU in 1st season
10:03
ace williams: FYI
10:03
ace williams: Purdue game means nothing. we need to make a statement vs Iowa
10:03
ace williams: we can beat purdue 66-0 and I am not getting excited
10:03
Comment From Duckz
Do you really think the coaches don't want him? I'm confused. They said they wanted him to commit but he wasn't ready, so he visited other places. They then told him that there had been miscommunication and that they'd take him if he still wants to come
10:04
ace williams: he is the #4 OL on the board right now
10:04
Comment From Guest
I hear RichRod might be headed to Tulane
10:04
ace williams: yeah i have heard that...mentioned in this chat
10:04
ace williams: not from anyone at U-M. hot rumor at ESPN
10:12
Comment From Guest
I must have been peeing when you mentioned it
10:12
Comment From Duckz
#4? Are you out of your mind? Behind who?
10:12
Comment From grrwolve
Which games do we win form now on...Purdue, Iowa, Illinois...(?)...I think Nebraska might be a loss but 50/50 vs. OSU
10:12
ace williams: Duckz . . are you serious?
10:13
ace williams: Diamond, Banner and Alex Kozan
10:13
ace williams: Diamond is #4
10:14
ace williams: interesting chew . . . Harbaugh met with some folks from U-M this weekend while in town. Some bad blood from january was discussed and resolved
10:15
ace williams: I like Hoke, I really do. I just think Harbaugh would have brought us Stoops/Saban/Meyer/Tressel success
10:15
ace williams: nnot sure if hoke has that ceiling
10:16
ace williams: with JH, we have all the guys in tow not plus 2 top tier WR and Gunner Kiel
10:16
Comment From Duckz
Yeah I'm serious. You're high if you think Kozan is Michigan quality but Diamond isn't. All of the analysts think that Diamond's a high 4 or low 5* guy, and the coaches obviously still like him if they're visiting and telling him that they'd accept his commitment
10:16
ace williams: Duckz . . . what makes you an expert bud?
10:16
Comment From Booga
Does the new John Bacon book talk at all about Miles banging Moehler's wife?
10:16
ace williams: haha no it doesnt but it should!
10:17
ace williams: never before in the history of college football have 2 coaches of top 4 teams been alums of the same school with a coaching opening and neither got the job.
10:17
ace williams: shit in the past may come back to haunt this program.
10:18
ace williams: they should have offered harbaugh 6mil/yr
10:18
Comment From Booga
lol
10:18
Comment From Duckz
I'm not saying I'm an expert. I'm quoting analysts and what the coaches have said.. Never said I was an expert. But way to just call out my credibility when you're losing the argument
10:18
ace williams: i was just wondering if you had 1st hand knowledge
10:19
ace williams: people think scout and rivals folks have all this access . . let me be clear. They dont.
10:19
ace williams: they bait and nag HS coaches for scoops. They have no program access outside of guys who coached 25 yrs ago that might have a scoop
10:19
Comment From jickky
you calling out the premium guys?
10:20
ace williams: no not at all, they just arent god
10:20
ace williams: MGoBlog those guys have access . . oh wait, they dont
10:20
ace williams: and all the talent they have is moving to other entities
10:21
ace williams: Tom to ESPN, other guy to Rivals (he sucked anyways) and now they bring in Ace Jr. to stop the bleeding
10:21
Comment From Duckz
I didn't say they had access. They're just good judges of the recruits. That's what they're paid to do. Along with ESPN and 24/7, they're the top 4 at analyzing recruits and giving them grades. That's what they're supposed to do and that's what they do a good job at. That's what I'm quoting when I say they call Diamond a 4/5 star guy
10:21
ace williams: guys from Rivals called Cameron Colvin the next Randy Moss in 2003
10:22
ace williams: look at 5stars from 5 yrs ago and tell me those guys are accurate. trust the coaches. thats where i get my info from
10:22
Comment From Guest
JH would have bolted for the next NFL gig, he wouldn't have stayed at Michigan. I thought you once reported that Michigan offered him more $$ than the niners???
10:23
ace williams: what is 1-2 million to MIchigan? nothing
10:23
ace williams: i can never believe how some programs skimp on coaching talent. mind boggling
10:23
Comment From grrwolve
ESPN sucks in recruiting....the only guy who is any good is Tom V, Scout is OK but Rivals is definitely no good
10:23
ace williams: Tom VH was living in an Arizona suburb until last month . . .
10:24
ace williams: and went to CMU . . .
10:25
ace williams: Sorry for rant on those guys. they are just trash at mgoblog so i need to vent once in a while
10:25
Comment From Guest
Huh? So, you didn't report that Michigan offered more money?
10:25
Comment From Mick
Hey Ace, I asked earlier but u were peein', what happened to the thread on saturday? Did u just get frustrated/
10:26
ace williams: yeah , .. sorry mick
10:26
Comment From brian
they suck anymore
10:26
Comment From brian
used to be good but not in a couple yrs
10:26
Comment From brian
Brian at mgoblog is a nerd and never played football
10:26
Comment From grrwolve
Gotta go Ace....thanks as always and GO BLUE!!
10:26
Comment From Booga
Les Miles would be UM's head coach starting in 2008 if Bill Martin wasn't on that stupid yacht that day
10:26
ace williams: umm, Dave Brandon was behind that move too
10:26
Comment From Booga
And Mary Sue Coleman didn't like JH because of him getting a dewey charge and her not getting laid for 17 years
10:27
ace williams: funny that the DUI has never been mentioned by anyone ever other than M fans...
10:27
ace williams: Harbaugh is the next belichick
10:27
ace williams: 49ers dynasty is coming
10:27
Comment From Lance
So are we still on for tonight cutie?? xoxoxo
10:27
ace williams: what!
10:27
Comment From Mick
Also, I think Hoke is going to be a superb HC. he's a guy who is confident enough in himself to hire great coordinators and coaches, Harbaugh would have been great, but he's a bit odd.
10:29
Comment From brenna
ace even though i dont work at chatsports anymore i would still love to meet one day!
10:29
ace williams: haha dont know if that is real
10:30
Comment From Mick
I want to see us build a program like what LSU and Stanford under JH have/had
10:30
Comment From ice williams
what are your thoughts on Gallon
10:30
ace williams: The good thing is the D is on its way there... hopefully Shane is the next henson
10:31
ace williams: Gallon, will be our #1 in 2012/13. Better than Roundtree.
10:33
Comment From Mick
Yeah, just don't let George Steinbrenner near Shane, oh wait, he's dead
10:33
Comment From I Am Cool
do u follow basketball recruiting closely too?
10:33
ace williams: Gallon/Jackson/Dileo/Stonum are your best WR in 2011
10:33
ace williams: not really on bball
10:33
ace williams: hey i am a yankees guy....
10:33
Comment From azfootballfan
I don't know if Les Miles could have gotten away at Michigan compared to what he did at LSU. He pays his defensive recruits under the table if they are 4-5 stars and commit to LSU. Reportedly $8,000 dollars for a verball and $10,000 more when he signs. Wouldn't have worked in the Big Ten
10:33
ace williams: Les doesnt cheat
10:34
ace williams: Les is one of the only stand up guys in the south
10:34
ace williams: he is good pals with my uncle.... great dude
10:34
Comment From tre
will denard get a ton of rushes this week? or vs purdue i mean
10:34
ace williams: 20+ vs purdue for DRob is the early thought
10:34
ace williams: kk... any last questions? about to head out
10:35
Comment From I Am Cool
is ricardo miller gonnna do anything good while he's at michigan cuz he said he will be the next braylon while he was in high school
10:35
ace williams: he will start at TE next yr in my opinion
10:35
Comment From Mick
I'd like to see Devin be QB1
10:35
ace williams: you a FNL fan Mick?
10:36
ace williams: Friday Night Lights
10:36
ace williams: thats the root of QB1 term
10:36
Comment From Mick
what's FNL? do u mean NFL
10:36
ace williams: great chat ya'll! see ya again next tuesday!
10:36
ace williams: follow me on twitter, tell your friends about chatwolverines,com and keep coming back
10:37
ace williams: 1 love,
Ace
10:37
Comment From Mick
Oh yeah, I loved that show, that's funny u ask
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