Michigan football rumors chat, full transcript below!
Live Michigan football chat with insider Ace Williams
Thursday November 17, 2011
8:32
ace williams: yo here til 915!
8:34
Comment From GBOD
any news on who starts saturday?
8:34
Comment From Joe from gr
How's denard?
8:34
ace williams: so here is the latest on QB's:
8:35
ace williams: Devin took all the snaps earlier in the week with #1 when the team was fully padded while Denard took some snaps with #2, throwing only, non contact
8:36
ace williams: they both took snaps with 1's in skeleton drills today and it is going to be a gametime decision on who starts. My source told me that Denard has been able to grip the ball about 75% of the time and has undergone grueling ice therapy all week trying to get healthy
8:38
ace williams: the U-M trainers have the ability to give him shots to ease the pain in his leg, so it will come down to whether he can grip a ball in the crisp weather Saturday
8:38
ace williams: if it is raining at game time, I DO NOT expect to see Denard at all
8:38
Comment From Joe from gr
There was a article in grand rapids press today on demar dosey
8:38
Comment From Joe from gr
There was a article in grand rapids press on demar Dorsey. He's doing very very well and he thinks he will be a wolverine? Any insight?
8:38
Comment From bob
think devin will start
8:38
ace williams: I think, right now, that Denard starts but he wont last past 1st Q
8:38
Comment From Joe from gr
So your guess who starts? Denard?
8:38
Comment From BHugh
With Dunn coming in vs Nebraska, what are your 'Final Four' recruits for 2012 class ? Yuri, Bri'onte, Diggs, & Darboh ?
8:39
ace williams: That final four looks good. The WR could be swapped out with other guys. nothing set in stone with WR
8:39
Comment From GBOD
how do you think Devin would fair vs Nebraska?
8:40
ace williams: i think we can beat them with Devin
8:40
ace williams: we would run 50+ times if so though
8:40
ace williams: think OSU with Miller
8:40
Comment From BigWorm
Is Michigan bringing in any more DT for 2012? I think we're really thin after Martin & VanBergen graduate?
8:40
ace williams: the only D players we are still pursuing are DBs
8:41
Comment From rgetzx
any chance dunn switches on Sat.?
8:41
ace williams: i think Dunn will tip his hand on Sat but wont commmit
8:41
ace williams: he was asked by OSU coaches to come to PSU game this weekend and chose M instead...
8:41
Comment From Guest
Heard Michigan can back count 5 players to 2011 so we could take 30 this year, true?
8:41
ace williams: incorrect
8:42
ace williams: we can count back but can only go to 28
8:42
Comment From GBOD
Also expect Wes Brown if Diggs comes. I also think they would save Denard knowing this game is NOT as important as next week
8:42
Comment From BHugh
Woolfork starting at SS over Gordon again ?
8:42
ace williams: Looks like Troy will get the start but TG will play a lot
8:42
Comment From BigWorm
Can Pimkins come in and start?
8:42
ace williams: he wont start right away but by Big Ten season yes
8:42
ace williams: Pipkins is the Countess of 2012
8:44
Comment From BHugh
Update on Lewan's knee ?
8:45
ace williams: I have heard nothing but good things on injury front today
8:45
Comment From rgetzx
Any chance we pursue Gehrig Dieter if a couple guys falloff?
8:45
ace williams: Gehrig Dieter is a possibility but highly unlikely
8:45
Comment From Grizz
Do we end up with diggs?
8:46
ace williams: I will say yes *if he stays on track in and out of classroom for next 2.5 months
8:46
Comment From hammy
Heard the +3 limit over 25 is just for going over the 85 limit, not a hard limit for a given year
8:46
ace williams: incorrect
8:46
ace williams: where did you hear this?
8:46
Comment From Grizz
What are you hearing on Wes Brown?
8:46
ace williams: Michigan is leaning strong on getting Dunn, after him, Brown is a possibility, but very unlikely in my opinion
8:46
Comment From BigWorm
Is Diggs a return specialist, like Desmond or Woodson?
8:47
ace williams: Diggs is Manningham 2.0
8:47
Comment From Guest
think if devin plays against Neb they will let him pass more then they did again illionis?
8:47
ace williams: no, probably less than 12 passes if Devin goes entire game
8:47
Comment From BigWorm
What about N. Spence?
8:47
Comment From hammy
TOS, confirmed by league officials a few years back. That's why they make the +3 require dos to explain how they get back under the 85 limit.
8:47
Comment From BHugh
With such a deep backfield i.e. Fitz, Rawls, VSmith and possibility of Dunn, could you see Justice Hayes being moved to WR ?
8:47
ace williams: i see Hayes as V Smith 2.0
8:48
ace williams: KO, 3rd down back, screens, great blocker 4-6 carries a game
8:48
Comment From hammy
dos=docs
8:48
Comment From Grizz
Do u think we end with diggs, dunn, wright, and daborah?
8:48
ace williams: thats a solid projected list Grizz
8:52
Comment From MLW
whos the juco QB visiting sat.?
8:52
Comment From BHugh
What do you think about new commit Drake Johnson ? Possible KR/PR down the road ?
8:52
ace williams: Drake can be a guy that becomes a started at RB in the future. some people i know think we got a steal with him
8:53
ace williams: QB is from a Juco in NorCal
8:53
ace williams: dont know the name yet but he is also being recruited by USC
8:53
ace williams: should know the name tonight
8:53
Comment From jMatthe
Could you see Demar Dorsey transferring or would Hoke not want him?
8:53
ace williams: Coaches want him, it comes down to admissions
8:53
Comment From bob
drake Johnson, WR or RB?
8:53
ace williams: RB for Drake
8:53
ace williams: love the drake
8:53
Comment From rgetzx
What are percentages for committments for each guy on grizz's list?
8:54
ace williams: diggs - 40%, dunn - 65%, wright - 45% and daborah - 50%
8:54
Comment From MLW
whos the juco QB thats visiting saturday?
8:54
Comment From Grizz
whats yours look like?
8:54
Comment From BigWorm
Give us a sleeper, someone that nobody think we could sign this year.
8:54
ace williams: i dont think anyone like that exists Big Worm
8:55
ace williams: Only sleeper would be at QB, and it would be one of these 2-3* guys:
* Detroit QB Brian Blackburn (Toledo commit)
* Rochester Hills QB Tony Annese (CMU commit)
* Detroit QB Brian CLeary
* OH QB Patrick Boyle
* OH QB Cole French
* OH (St. Ignatiius) QB Eric Williams
8:55
Comment From Guest
team confident with next two games?
8:56
ace williams: team is confident. they know if they lose either game people will continue to doubt them
8:56
Comment From Grizz
Heard anything on Burbridge?
8:56
ace williams: his teammates are recruiting him to come to U-M
8:57
ace williams: the odds he comes here have increased. it seems he would get into school at Michigan now...
8:57
Comment From Pazman
Hearing anything on supposed rumor of Urban Meyer to OSU , 7yrs. 35 million ?
8:57
ace williams: i hear a lot of rumors about Meyer to OSU....
8:57
Comment From skeets
If we end up with diggs, dunn, wright, and either payton, or daborah. Michigan ends up with a top 3 class
8:57
ace williams: might be #1 class if we land those guys
8:57
Comment From Guest
Dunn is a real possibility?
8:57
ace williams: Big Time real possibility
8:58
Comment From BHugh
Little worried about TE next year with Moore, Miller and Funchess ? Any insight ? 2013 Adam Breneman ?
8:58
ace williams: I expect to see 2 freshman get PT at TE next yr
8:58
ace williams: P. Brown being one of them
8:58
Comment From MLW
who is the juco QB thats visiting saturday?
8:58
Comment From MLW
pro style though?
8:58
ace williams: Pro Style kid from Bay Area
8:59
ace williams: ok, got confirmation on QB: Name is Turner Baty
9:01
ace williams: goes to City College of San Fran . . sam school as Jeremiah Mesoli
9:01
ace williams: was an Ivy League student out of HS
9:02
ace williams: article on him from 6 weeks ago... long, strange trip he has been on: http://newcanaan.patch.com/articles/the-twists-and-turns-of-turner-baty
9:02
ace williams: coached by Tom Bradys old QB coach
9:02
Comment From Grizz
He's related to Denard, they gotta give him a shot. dorsey that is.
9:02
Comment From rgetzx
would dorsey be 2012/2013?
9:02
ace williams: i think Dorseys only option would be to walk on in 2012 if he can get into U-M
9:03
Comment From Eric
Hey Ace, who do you think is the starting D-line next season?
9:03
Comment From MLW
my bad on the re-posts - you expect any more attrition before next year or is everybody happy for the most part
9:03
ace williams: i expect plenty of attrition, no one is unhappy they just want to play or they wont be asked back for a 5th yr
9:03
Comment From Guest
Win next two games and MSU wins out what ball u see a 10-2 micigan going to?
9:03
ace williams: if we win next 2 we will go to BCS game is my call
9:04
Comment From rgetzx
Is the Tony Annese from Rochester related to the Tony Annese from GRCC?
9:04
ace williams: ??
9:04
Comment From BigWorm
Who's better Dunn or Ty Issac 2013?
9:04
ace williams: Dunn
9:04
Comment From hammy
AJ at TE next year or OL?
9:04
ace williams: TE
9:04
Comment From Grizz
I think Diggs, and burbridge is the best combo out there.
9:04
ace williams: that would be an amazing combo!!!
9:04
Comment From Guest
what is drakes 40 time?
9:04
ace williams: its very fast. 4.4
9:04
Comment From jMatthe
this is years away, but Cass Tech's freshman qb, will Michigan go after him?
9:04
ace williams: if he is a top QB when he is 17, yes
9:05
ace williams: WAY too early to tell
9:05
Comment From BHugh
If you had a choice: Burbridge, Darboh or Payton. Who would you choose ?
9:05
ace williams: Burbridge
9:05
Comment From BHugh
So Pharaoh Brown moving to TE is a lock (Good size at 6-5,225) ? Guess that means AJ WIlliams moves to OT ?
9:05
ace williams: i think both start at TE
9:05
ace williams: AJ might move as a Soph
9:05
Comment From Grizz
What about the jr safety that visited yesterday? I think him and strobel go to same high school.
9:05
ace williams: i really try to not get into 2013 until after 2012 class is over
9:05
Comment From Guest
why juco then?
9:06
ace williams: he had some family issues
9:06
ace williams: one parent in Florida etc
9:06
ace williams: no
9:06
Comment From MLW
you think Bellomy will ever be a starter?
9:06
ace williams: no was for Bellomy
9:06
Comment From Guest
Do we need a qb in this class?
9:06
ace williams: my opinion is that we should take one
9:06
Comment From hammy
Does AJ Williams play TE or OL next year?
9:06
Comment From jMatthe
what is your % we win both games?
9:06
ace williams: 45% NU 25% OSU
9:06
Comment From Jeremy
When will the NCAA let OSU know what there punistment is?
9:07
ace williams: i have no idea . . . probably will be before bowl season though
9:07
Comment From Grizz
Whats your projections to finish class ace?
9:07
ace williams: same as yours Grizz
9:07
Comment From Guest
Mike Martin, what Round of the draft do you think?
9:07
ace williams: 3-4th round
9:07
Comment From jMatthe
what's your reasoning on such a low chance at beating OSU?
9:07
ace williams: the reasoning? This team isnt tough and I have to base my projections on that until they prove me wrong
9:07
ace williams: if they beat NU this week, that OSU % goes up to 75%
9:08
ace williams: these guys have lost 15 straight games!!!! to non cupcake Big Ten teams
9:08
Comment From Brian in Dayton
when does the stadium expansion start in the south endzone?
9:08
Comment From Joe from gr
25 percent ohio why?
9:08
Comment From Grizz
Who's next to commit? I say Daborah, pending his visit to nd this weekend.
9:09
ace williams: Publically - Payton or Dar. might be Dunn in private
9:09
Comment From BHugh
IF we were to end class with Dunn, Darboh, Wright and Diggs....Could this be the greatest UM class, Ever ?
9:09
ace williams: yes it might be
9:09
ace williams: it has quality and quanity
9:09
Comment From jMatthe
my concern is our offense is very very bad right now and their D is good
9:09
Comment From Joe from gr
Miller cannot throw at all! Ohio I think be easier the Nebraska no? Nebraska beat Ohio
9:09
Comment From steve
RVB, think he will be drafted or free agent?
9:09
ace williams: he will be drafted
9:10
Comment From rgetzx
One of these weeks they'll have the watershed win they seek, all programs coming back have that moment.
9:10
Comment From BHugh
Hopkins overall performance at FB ?
9:10
ace williams: i would say Hop is a B- at FB
9:10
ace williams: not bad, considering
9:10
Comment From Timmy
What's you definition of cupcake team
9:11
ace williams: Big Ten Real Teams: NU, OSU, Wisc, MSU, Iowa, Penn State
Cupcakes: Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Minnesota, NW
9:11
Comment From Joe from gr
I agree we beaten nobody. But nd was supposed to be good. There alright
9:11
Comment From phil
Not tough? That's not an accurate statement.
9:11
ace williams: what is inaccurate about it Phil??
9:11
Comment From Brian in Dayton
so the stadium expansion is/isn't really being considered?
9:11
Comment From MLW
you see houma taking over FB next year as a freshman?
9:12
ace williams: no i think Hop starts at FB for his career
9:12
Comment From PussyFucker
Will u be in FL for the bowl game?
9:12
ace williams: no
9:12
Comment From Timmy
How many losses do the non cupcake teams have?
9:12
Comment From Joe from gr
Notre dame bit cupcake they whooped msu ass. 29 yards rushing they held them too!
9:12
ace williams: we won all non conf games with RR, big deal
9:12
Comment From Guest
We have to beat Ohio. It has to stop now. They need me to fire them up before the game.
9:13
ace williams: Second that guest
9:13
Comment From Skeptic
Is Tom Brady going to be in Ann Arbor Saturday?
9:13
ace williams: havent gotten confirmation on it
9:13
ace williams: was told he was months back
9:13
ace williams: no one will know other than DB if he is
9:13
ace williams: for sure
9:13
Comment From Guest
How long before this 2012 class makes a significant impact?
9:13
ace williams: 2012
9:13
Comment From jMatthe
In terms of Michigan football, we are not tough at all, i agree
9:13
Comment From Guest
MSU proved they not tough.
9:13
ace williams: MSU is WAY tougher than us
9:14
Comment From skeets
Best class ever has to be henson, terrell, walker, epstein,fargas. And everyone else in that class. If we had a d back then that group would have one a national championship
9:14
Comment From steve
If diggs commits with MU do you think he will start next season?
9:14
ace williams: no frosh WR will start next yr
9:14
Comment From Brian
do we nset a new attendance record in either of the final two home games
9:14
ace williams: if we beat NU, OSU could beat record
9:14
Comment From Grizz
What bowl game do u see us going to?
9:14
ace williams: I see us in Outback
9:14
Comment From phil
I understand they haven't beaten a lot of good teams in three years but there is a noticeable difference in they way they play defense and in my opinion they've shown a lot of toughness.
9:15
ace williams: D has toughness, O; NONE
9:15
Comment From MLW
so will houma be back up or could we use him in different tailback situations?
9:15
ace williams: he will RD
9:15
ace williams: RS
9:15
Comment From BHugh
Do you see Brennen Beyer starting at DE next year ?
9:15
ace williams: NO
9:15
Comment From jMatthe
MSU out toughed us. did you watch the game? it was like us vs Purdue
9:15
ace williams: ummmm, you drinkin man!
9:15
Comment From Skeptic
WHen was the last time Michigan didn't have a decommit? Ever?
9:15
ace williams: been ages
9:15
ace williams: probably never
9:15
Comment From phil
What's up with Cam Gordon?
9:15
ace williams: he wont play this season
9:16
Comment From Joe from gr
Msu is so much more physical it makes me do upset that's why they won
9:16
Comment From Joe from gr
Jenkins stone or Ross who starts?
9:16
ace williams: RJS
9:16
Comment From bigblue
MSU pushed us around. that cant happen anymore either
9:16
Comment From Brian
does Lloyd get a 25%, 50% 75% or 100% standing O when he's introduced on Saturday?
9:16
ace williams: 90% standing O
9:16
Comment From BHugh
Would a Yuri Wright commit affect the decision of Terry Richardson or Anthony Standifer to come here ?
9:16
ace williams: no they are both in
9:16
Comment From jMatthe
The difference between this year and last, our we've had a chance to win every game
9:16
ace williams: True JMatth
9:16
Comment From Guest
2013 NC, longshot?
9:17
ace williams: We will have a chance at a NC if Mattison is DC
9:17
Comment From rgetzx
Will our O-line commits start to change the toughness issueon offense?
9:17
ace williams: they better!!
9:17
Comment From BHugh
Who do you see starting at RE opp Roh ?
9:17
ace williams: Clark or Black
9:17
Comment From Skeptic
Are you saying RJS because thats what your hearing or based on your own evaluation. I saw highlights of de la salle cass tec and I wasnt that impressed with rjs at linebacker
9:17
ace williams: hearing
9:17
Comment From MLW
chance at beating bama next year?
9:17
ace williams: no, we will lose to Bama . . 21*10
9:18
Comment From Timmy
Those real teams lose to other real teams
9:18
Comment From Joe from gr
Denard gave state 7 points and we screwed up in the redzone in that game! Defense played good enough to win
9:18
ace williams: K guys, 45 min is up . . . i can chat again tomorrow night same time if ya'll want
9:18
Comment From BHugh
Starting LB corp next season: RJS, Demens, Ryan ?
9:18
ace williams: probably
9:18
Comment From Skeptic
Any chance Michigan switches to a 3-4?
9:18
ace williams: HIGHLY doubt it
9:19
Comment From hammy
Check on that 2012 OG from NV, ok?
9:19
Comment From phil
I'm a little confused as to why Borgess has gone away from the screen game and why not utilize Denard in the slot as a receiver in space with the bubble or jet screen?
9:19
Comment From Guest
2014, What qb is starting RB or SM?
9:19
Comment From skeets
We couldn't stop state when they had the wind at their back
9:19
Comment From Joe from gr
Sounds good! Tomm it is!!! More info on denard please I want to bet the game and it makes a difference lol
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