Here's what Michigan State fans are talking about following the Spartans' 16-13 loss to Arizona State:
Fourth quarter collapse
Michigan State didn't allow a point until nearly the midway point of the third quarter. It didn't allow a touchdown until the fourth quarter.
On the road, the defense did its job for most of the game. But the Spartans offense sputtered and left the door open, and Arizona State took advantage late.
Once Arizona State found its groove on offense, it was moving. The Sun Devils marched 70 yards early in the fourth quarter to kick a field goal.