It could easily have been enough to make Erik ten Hag pack his bags and take the first plane back to Amsterdam.
The Dutch coach sat in the stands at Selhurst Park and watched the Manchester United team he'd agreed to take over stink the place out in a modern-day nadir.
They lost 1-0 to Crystal Palace on the final day of last season and were fortunate not to lose out on their Europa League place. It was their sixth consecutive away defeat and ensured United's lowest points return in a season since 1990.