'You feel the pressure,' Louis Saha says, fondly reflecting back on his time in the eye of the storm of Manchester United's fierce and fiery clashes with Liverpool. 'You feel the town boiling.'
He is no stranger to the high-octane and relentless demands placed on players during that almighty showdown between two Premier League titans.
Liverpool's resurgence, coupled with United's drop-off after Sir Alex Ferguson's departure, has added extra spice to the fixture these days – not that Saha's own experiences weren't full-blooded grudge matches either.
But, speaking to the former Everton and Fulham ace, it is clear he wouldn't trade in his own highlights against the old enemy for a shot at taking them on now.