'Who told you that?' asks Leroy Sane with a big smile. Sane is always smiling.
A young man who has electrified the Premier League has just been reminded of an afternoon that was very different, an afternoon that helped shape his career. It is an embarrassing episode in hindsight but one he can now afford to reminisce about with a laugh.
It came two seasons ago when Sane lined up for Schalke's Under 19 side, the day after sitting on their first-team bench.
Five minutes into that match against Wuppertal, his coach, the renowned Norbert Elgert, screamed for him to get moving.