"Man United always get an easy home FA Cup draw."
"What about City?! Home against Salford..."
Heard that argument before?
BBC Sport has attempted to crunch the data around one of those classic rival fan disputes - who gets the easiest and hardest FA Cup draws?
First of all, some parameters.
We've focused on the traditional Premier League 'big six' over the past decade (sorry Newcastle fans) of Manchester City, Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham.
That's because the 'big six' have won 26 of the past 29 FA Cups between them.