A meeting is about to take place at Liverpool and the subject will be Mohamed Salah.
On one side you have those providing data and video evidence that Salah is the right signing. On the other side is former Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp.
"Jurgen's preferred option for that summer was Julian Brandt, who was a great player," said former Liverpool director of research Ian Graham, who spoke to BBC Sport as part of a documentary released on BBC iPlayer on Friday, 4 April about Liverpool's journey to winning the 2018-19 Champions League.
"Jurgen had obviously known him very well, coming from the Bundesliga, and knew the German market very well.