Leighton Baines ambles down a scruffy cobbled alleyway in Liverpool city centre. Pretty it isn't. Old buildings, corrugated iron. Round the back are abandoned cars.
'I haven't been here before,' he says, head swivelling. 'It's interesting.'
On his back is a rucksack and inside is a camera. A new hobby. More of that later. First some football talk ahead of Sunday's game at home against Manchester United. This is Baines' tenth season at his boyhood club. Last weekend SKY TV described him as a veteran.
'It feels really good,' Baines said with a smile.