Talking Lions-Buccaneers in Week 15, a quick disagreement on Chase Young and whether a Lions win is good for organization. Recorded Dec. 13, 2019. Dave Birkett and Carlos Monarrez, Detroit Free Press
When Dick Vermeil’s second season as St. Louis Rams coach ended with more losses than his first, he sat down for a postseason meeting with then-team president John Shaw and showed Shaw film of all the improvements the Rams had made, individually, schematically and as a team.
“It didn’t mean a lot to him, because he’s a president, a lawyer, not a football guy,” Vermeil recalled this week.