• Producer: Andrew Hammond
• Editor: Robin Chan
• Executive producers: Anjanette Delgado, Kirkland Crawford
On this episode: This week, Carlos doubles down on self-appreciation as the guys look at the Detroit Lions' inexcusable loss to the Carolina Panthers and spar over a lingering question on a potential Michigan vs. Ohio State rematch in the national championship game.
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