The records keep on tumbling for Sheffield United. For all the wrong reasons.
Two more unwanted landmarks were reached at Selhurst Park as Chris Wilder's side slumped to defeat once again.
And, as tight as things are in this Premier League season, with every passing week – and defeat – their prospects of defying the odds get bleaker and bleaker.
The last team to fail to win any of their first 17 games in a season was Bolton in 1902.
There was club history too with their winless league run reaching 20 games including three from the end of last season.