Ironically, Alex Lozowski is the smallest player in the Chelsea academy photograph hanging on the wall of his family home.
Nowadays, the former footballer — of Polish and Italian descent — is competing in the land of giants with the England rugby team.
'There I am — the midget!' he says, picking out the floppy-haired youngster stood behind Brendan Rodgers.
'And there's Adam Gemili, the Olympic sprinter, a bit further back.
'He was right wing so he'd bomb up and down, fit as a fiddle.