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Talking points: Is McLaren at a lower point now than it was with Honda?

F1's return to France didn't got to plan for all concerned and in this week's talking points we discuss the traffic, Sebastian Vettel's Turn 1 error and McLaren's deepening problems. ESPN's F1 editor Laurence Edmondson, associate editor Nate Saunders and F1 writers Kate Walker and Maurice Hamilton offer their opinions below.

With all the problems fans faced over the race weekend, should the race promoters refund ticket holders?

Kate Walker: Absolutely they should. Silverstone faced up to its traffic issues after refunding a hefty wodge of cash to hard done by fans, and if losing a pile of money is what it takes to get Ricard and the Var department to take infrastructure improvements seriously, then that's what needs to be done.