Even now in football there are those who are surprised at just how far Tyrone Mings has come.
He was once let go by Southampton's academy for being too small. He stands at 6ft 5in now. Later, in 2015, there were those at Ipswich surprised that Bournemouth paid £9million for him. Four years on Aston Villa invested more than twice that amount.
So if proving people wrong has been part of the Mings story then it is probably appropriate that the England defender is still doing it.
Even now in football there are those who are surprised at just how far Tyrone Mings has come
Had it not been for injury to Manchester United captain Harry Maguire, Mings would not be in the England team.