Andre Gomes has his hands slightly apart and is making a twisting motion. There is a smile, too, as he begins a two-minute explanation that concludes with an audible gasp from the small audience sitting before him.
We are at Finch Farm, Everton's training ground, to see the Portugal midfielder. His has been one of the most remarkable individual stories of this Premier League campaign and, after coming through a significant substitute appearance at Arsenal last Sunday, Gomes is ready to share it.
'The past was a scary moment,' he says, as he settles down to talk.