Lighter topics aren't typically on the menu for coaches with a 2-7 record.
That's even more so with Arkansas State Coach Butch Jones, who, even in his more different moments, still strikes a relatively intense figure.
But that didn't stop 103.7 FM, The Buzz, host Wess Moore from engaging Jones in a conversation about candy. It was Halloween, after all.
"I've got to go Kit Kat," Jones said when asked for his Halloween preference.
It was a rare moment of non-football conversation as Jones spoke to the Little Rock Touchdown Club at the DoubleTree Hotel in downtown Little Rock on Monday afternoon.