Billy Napier's dream tight end duo is Rob Gronkowski, primarily as a receiver, and O.J. Howard, for his blocking, with each capable in the other's strength area.
Or perhaps Jason Witten and Antonio Gates as teammates, creating mismatches and defensive headaches.
"Eventually we'll get there," said Napier, Arizona State's first-year offensive coordinator, willing to dream big and make a statement to recruits that ASU once again is a place that elite tight end should consider.
From 1998 through 2006, with the exception of a few years in the middle, tight ends were a major part of ASU's offense.