“I’m jealous that Nick got him,” said Freeze in an appearance on McElroy and Cubelic in the Morning on WJOX 94.5 FM. “I typically don’t go outside of my tree too much, but I had him highly recommend to me at Liberty. He was at Southern Utah, and he was wanting to break into the FBS level. And I interviewed him and was absolutely blown away by his knowledge, his demeanor for teaching. I think he’s a rising star. The guy was incredibly valuable, a great evaluator, and he’s a great human being. He and his wife are just super people.